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HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-05-2014 Minutes_Special_Meeting-Public_Informatin_Meetinga4yr North Ammon Road, Idaho Falls, Idaho, o34Oz (208) 525-4400 Fax (20a)s2eozO4 www.d93szhoo|suw N/.vjuom'uxm"U.mpv\rm»,mo'`".i,x/ Special Meeting[Work Session Sandcreek Middle School Cafeteria March 5,2N4 6:00 PM i Call mOrder Chairperson Winchester Galled the meeting m order mO:0Op.m, |i Roll CaU Those Board members Landers, Trustee Brian McBride, and Trustee Jeff Bird. Others in attendance were Superintendent Chuck Shackett, Deputy Superintendent Marjean McConnell, oirexw,ofVumaoRasourcemGhde vrmnm`.00uu Financial and Operations Officer April Burton, Director of Plant Facility and Purchasing Roger Hill, and Board Clerk Valerie Messick, |U, Executive Session The Board will enter into Executive Session m8:00um. pursuant mIdaho Code Section O7-2345(1)<W To consider the evaluation, dismissal or disciplining v( or m hear complaints or charges brought against, a public officer, employee, staff member or individual agent, or public school student and 67-2345 (1)(c) To conduct deliberations concerning labor negotiations or to acquire an interest in real property which is not owned by a public agency, The Executive Session will be closed to the public uo permitted bylaw. Chairperson Winchester then asked for a motion to enter into Executive Session at 05 p.m. MOTION: Brian McBride made the motion m move into Executive Session for the reasons stated. Amy Landers seconded. The roll call vote was: Jeff Bird yes Amy Landers yes Brian McBride yes Kip Nelson yes Annette Winchester yes IV. Move Back into Oven Meetinn Chairperson Winchester asked for p motion m move back into Open Meeting at8:45pm. MOTION: Kip Nelson made the motion m move back into open session. Jeff Bird seconded. The vote was Sinfavor with 0opposed and 0 abstentions Motion passed. Mr. McBride is concerned that he isn't on the same page with the District. He has concerns about the turf question and wants to talk about it. We need better communication oow* make sure wm can stand firm with the administration, There was discussion regarding whether mm should do the new school right and wketherwm should include brf.KialooNng|ikcpvNn;tuVonThoodor0o iumbWnhost thing to do. We can't answer all the questions m this point. K Motions from Executive Session Chairperson Winchester asked if there would be any motions from Executive Session. Hearing none, the Board moved into the Public information Meeting.at6:56 p.m. VI. Items for Discussion Marketing and Events Coordinator Position Chairperson Winchester the Board had the Marketing and Events Coordinator Position decision on the agenda but U has been tabled until an April work vu call for Arienda Items forUocominci MeetinQs A. Regular Meeting Wednesday, March 12,on4 7:00 mm. & Regular Meeting ' Wednesday, April e,2014'7:00p.m C� Work Session with Bonneville x»h Bonneville H 11:30 2:30 D. Work Session with Lincoln Student Council Wednesday, April aO,2O14- Lincoln High School Multipurpose nvomomUo-11:auo.m. 2:30 p.m. E. Work Session with Hillcrest Student Council - Wednesday, May 7, 2014 - Hillcrest High School Media Center - 11:30 a.m. - 2:30 p.m. Vin. Public Information Meetin Reqardinq the Bond Election IX Welcominq ofoeleQates and Visitors Chairperson Winchester welcomed those inonendammat0:n0pm. and stated that the Board appreciates those individuals for coming. She introduced the members of the Board, Dr. Sheckou and Mrs. McConnell. Others in attendance were Mike Jarvis, Darla Hill, Sue Kindred Britany Jakubowski, Dan Jakubowski, Renee Cook, Bruce Scholes, Brenda Scholes, Todd Rapp, Holly Giglio, Kristen Judy, Ann Judy, Stan Boyle, Bryan Smith, Vehia Carlson, Boyd Southwick, William F|og|er, Gerald Knowles, Dana Wrigh..Tonoo| Wright, Dianna Danes, Chad Dance, Cheryl Lynch, seole Lynch, Lance Larsen, Kkye Larsen, Chdstian Larsen, Drew Smith, Debbie Smith, Julie Hawkes, Julian Duffey, Lindsey TenEyck, Suzanne Meikle, Brancle Hendricks, Jared Hendricks, Jeff Gunnell, Ethan Gunnell, Camille Mod, Heather Jarten, Sharman mn^/d^/)nno� r, "; At, ^opv!i^'|'� u`' ' k.y HJ`oo mx, |ad,/, x,i^o m .| n;"/ '�__ ^_^__ � a4yr North Ammon Road, Idaho Falls, Idaho, o34Oz (208) 525-4400 Fax (20a)s2eozO4 www.d93szhoo|suw N/.vjuom'uxm"U.mpv\rm»,mo'`".i,x/ Special Meeting[Work Session Sandcreek Middle School Cafeteria March 5,2N4 6:00 PM i Call mOrder Chairperson Winchester Galled the meeting m order mO:0Op.m, |i Roll CaU Those Board members Landers, Trustee Brian McBride, and Trustee Jeff Bird. Others in attendance were Superintendent Chuck Shackett, Deputy Superintendent Marjean McConnell, oirexw,ofVumaoRasourcemGhde vrmnm`.00uu Financial and Operations Officer April Burton, Director of Plant Facility and Purchasing Roger Hill, and Board Clerk Valerie Messick, |U, Executive Session The Board will enter into Executive Session m8:00um. pursuant mIdaho Code Section O7-2345(1)<W To consider the evaluation, dismissal or disciplining v( or m hear complaints or charges brought against, a public officer, employee, staff member or individual agent, or public school student and 67-2345 (1)(c) To conduct deliberations concerning labor negotiations or to acquire an interest in real property which is not owned by a public agency, The Executive Session will be closed to the public uo permitted bylaw. Chairperson Winchester then asked for a motion to enter into Executive Session at 05 p.m. MOTION: Brian McBride made the motion m move into Executive Session for the reasons stated. Amy Landers seconded. The roll call vote was: Jeff Bird yes Amy Landers yes Brian McBride yes Kip Nelson yes Annette Winchester yes IV. Move Back into Oven Meetinn Chairperson Winchester asked for p motion m move back into Open Meeting at8:45pm. MOTION: Kip Nelson made the motion m move back into open session. Jeff Bird seconded. The vote was Sinfavor with 0opposed and 0 abstentions Motion passed. Mr. McBride is concerned that he isn't on the same page with the District. He has concerns about the turf question and wants to talk about it. We need better communication oow* make sure wm can stand firm with the administration, There was discussion regarding whether mm should do the new school right and wketherwm should include brf.KialooNng|ikcpvNn;tuVonThoodor0o iumbWnhost thing to do. We can't answer all the questions m this point. K Motions from Executive Session Chairperson Winchester asked if there would be any motions from Executive Session. Hearing none, the Board moved into the Public information Meeting.at6:56 p.m. VI. Items for Discussion Marketing and Events Coordinator Position Chairperson Winchester the Board had the Marketing and Events Coordinator Position decision on the agenda but U has been tabled until an April work vu call for Arienda Items forUocominci MeetinQs A. Regular Meeting Wednesday, March 12,on4 7:00 mm. & Regular Meeting ' Wednesday, April e,2014'7:00p.m C� Work Session with Bonneville x»h Bonneville H 11:30 2:30 D. Work Session with Lincoln Student Council Wednesday, April aO,2O14- Lincoln High School Multipurpose nvomomUo-11:auo.m. 2:30 p.m. E. Work Session with Hillcrest Student Council - Wednesday, May 7, 2014 - Hillcrest High School Media Center - 11:30 a.m. - 2:30 p.m. Vin. Public Information Meetin Reqardinq the Bond Election IX Welcominq ofoeleQates and Visitors Chairperson Winchester welcomed those inonendammat0:n0pm. and stated that the Board appreciates those individuals for coming. She introduced the members of the Board, Dr. Sheckou and Mrs. McConnell. Others in attendance were Mike Jarvis, Darla Hill, Sue Kindred Britany Jakubowski, Dan Jakubowski, Renee Cook, Bruce Scholes, Brenda Scholes, Todd Rapp, Holly Giglio, Kristen Judy, Ann Judy, Stan Boyle, Bryan Smith, Vehia Carlson, Boyd Southwick, William F|og|er, Gerald Knowles, Dana Wrigh..Tonoo| Wright, Dianna Danes, Chad Dance, Cheryl Lynch, seole Lynch, Lance Larsen, Kkye Larsen, Chdstian Larsen, Drew Smith, Debbie Smith, Julie Hawkes, Julian Duffey, Lindsey TenEyck, Suzanne Meikle, Brancle Hendricks, Jared Hendricks, Jeff Gunnell, Ethan Gunnell, Camille Mod, Heather Jarten, Sharman mn^/d^/)nno� r, "; At, ^opv!i^'|'� u`' ' k.y HJ`oo mx, |ad,/, x,i^o m .| n;"/ Lnema, Heidi Sloan, Kenneth Lemingrich, Malina Daw, Heidi Southwick, Sheila Rusch, Gachys Mille, Halley Miller, Margerie Miller, Jay Dannhel, Jan Dannhel, Terry Turner, Nonalee turner, Jenni Talcolt, Dustin Miller, Erike, Miller, Chelsea Chase, Camille Lororey, Anna Durfee, Andy Hegstel, Rebecca Webb, LeAnn Atwood, Heather Plain, DeVere Hunt, Tome Hunt, Dane Nelson, Tammy Nelson, Janette Seedall, Kirsten Johnson, Adam Phillips, AUdra Hunsaker, Claudia Chamberlain, tandee Price, James Williams, JoAnn Net, and Tarnime McCamnion Chairperson a letter from former Chairperson perspective of the question at hand because of his past service on the school board, He commended the school board for allowing the patrons of the district to have a say in this matter by allowing the issue to be decided at the ballot box. He appreciates the administration and the Board for holding public meetings and forums with regard to the important decision that the patrons are being asked to vote on. He is aware that it takes a great deal of time and effort to hold public meetings. He appreciates the effort of the Board in empowering the committee of patrons to review and recommend solutions to the Board. He thanked representative Horinan for tier efforts in sponsoring legislation which allows school districts the same ability that cities and counties have to issue 30 year bonds. This will allow a smaller burden on tax payers paying over a longer period of time, He thanked the District and Legislature for providing patrons with a choice regarding an acceptable debt schedule. A growing school district has issues that need to be addressed. He believes that the proposed bond is appropriate and is happy to support the bond and will be voting yes next Tuesday, He thanked the Board for their efforts and Support of the children and patrons of the District. Chairperson Winchester stated that she has served no the Board for 1n years. The issue with the high school has been her mind fo elementary. Ye have had two committees and many discussions over many years. After looking at all of the options she believes this is the best plan for our students and our community. The community will make the decision regarding what we will do. The Board is giving the community the opportunity w vote nn this proposal. This decision has not been made easily but wo feel i|io the right one at this time. She then stated that she had a prior commitment and would need to be excused from the meeting, She appointed Vice-chairperson Kip Nelson as Acting Chairperson for the remainder of the meeting at 7:04 p.m. Acting Chairperson Nelson stated that the District is wanting m put facts out and hope the public will understand how we came mthis decision. He then turned the meeting over to Dr. Shackett He stated that the objective of this meeting is to share information and then answer questions, It is not his bond or the Board's bond, it is the community's bond, Our job is to plan the best way we can meet the needs of the children in an affordable way. In 2011 we had a parent group from the plant facilities committee to build a high school. There are pros and cons to the recommendation. A lot of time has gone into this. Our job is to present to you a solution that we feel most of the community can afford and can accept to complete the schools that the students need. We will put this Out to vote on the 1 Ith. We want you to be so educated. Please ask any questions you have. Showed a video regarding the overcrowding at the high schools. Then showed a PowerPoint presentation going over the history, reasons why we went this way, and what we are asking for, Showed tax levy rate going down when *m began building the o|mmonbries and then back upalittle, then back down in2007, The proposed tax levy rate is still lower than in 1995. Usually has accomplished a lot of projects and the growth in the community has helped pay for our buildings, Our current debt capacity is about $95 million. This bond is $92 million over 30 years. He discussed District's taxable market value over the past several years. People are moving in because Our schools are so good. In 2012 the value took a little dip, In 2008 we had almost 20% growth. Market value growth brings in more money and helps LIS pay off bonds earlier. Most all our bonds have been paid off before the 20 year margin. In 2009, 2010, and 2011 it was a negative market growth. Something he never thought would happen. Our projections for this bond are based on 0 growth in market value, Our enrollment growth has not slowed down. Right now we have $60 million in bond indebtedness. If we pass this bond, in 2015 bond payments will begin paying partially on this bond, By 2031 all the other bonds will drop off and be paid off and the rest of the levy will go toward this bond. Almost all Our bonds have been paid off early. If the growth continues, more people will be paying taxes and then we can pay the bonds down earlier. That doesn't mean the taxes will go up, but more people will be paying taxes. Our philosophy is to pay the bonds of as soon as we Gan and let the growth pay for the bonds. Intermountain Demographics out of Boise did a growth study in 2011 the projected growth and the students we currently have in the District were shown. The Study shows thatwe will have over 4500 Students in our high schools by 2021. We have actual (the student we have now and moving them up) and projected. Somewhere in between will be the number Of Students we will have enrolled by 2021 . Our middle schools are at capacity now, We had a preschool program at Rocky Mountain Annex. We moved that program out into the elementary schools where we had space so Rocky Mountain could utilize that classroom space, We started our online school to offeras many opportunities to our Students as we can. We have students taking classes online at the eCenter. We have students taking classes online at home as well. These opportunities take students Out Of the brick and mortar classrooms. We opened our Technical Careers High School in 2012. We have almost 500 students taking classes there right now. We want to expand this school. One of the projects on the bond is to move tire bus barn and transportation to a better location and then use the current facilities to implement a diesel niechanics and an FFA agricultural program. We want to have horticulture and aninials. The hope is to extend the reach ofTCHS to bring in more Students. The more students YOU can bring in and get interested in their education, they don't drop out of school. You are now seeing 21 modular classrooms at the high schools now. We are anticipating more every year. The current high schools were built to add on to, However, the hallways aren't wide enough to accommodate the 1600 Students in each of the high schools. We are proposing to build a new high school that will accommodate the flow of 2000 Students and allow additions in the future, If that had been done at Hillcrest and Bonneville, we Could add another wing to accommodate the enrollment. With 21 portable classrooms. We will have to start using port-a-potties. There have been a lot of ideas overtho years. We began talking inzU10. The Board has spent many years discussing possible solutions. In 2011 a parent committee presented to the board that we need to build a new high school, Our solution that we feel is what is best for the education Of Our kids is to build a high school and a middle school, Buildi two idd| schools io work where the grade would be educationally sound, The Board is presenting to the community what they feel is the best educationally sound option. On March 11 th You get to decide. 91h graders can't take advanced classes when they are removed from the high school. There was a Survey in November and the first question was, "Would you support a $92 million bond that Would increase your taxes $10.25 per month per $100,000 taxable value?' 84% of the respondents (well over enough to make it valid) Supported. 86% supported the middle school and high school concept. This didn't just come Out of the Board, The majority of those that responded are our customers, those that have kids. We are growing at about 400 students per year or about 4%. This year we have about 3,000 high school students. That is approximately 1500 at Hillcrest and 1500 at Bonneville. The schools were built for 1200 students. Right now we are about 500 students over. That is why we have 21 portable classrooms. The freshman class at each school has 100 more students than the senior class, We are presenting a solution that we feel is best for the education of students. We have just been keeping up with the growth in the elementaries. At the middle schools 06-07 we took the 6th grade Out. Now they are at capacity. At the high schools, we are now over capacity. These kids are here and we need to put them somewhere. We have looked a| alternatives. But doing nothing costs a lot of money. Portables have two classrooms and are $125a piece m set up and wpurchase. We still need money to purchase these type of classrooms, The modified high school block has 25% down time. If we go to a 7 period day, the down time would drop to 14%. That is an alternative that we will bo looking at. Split sessions is a reality. If the bond passes the school won't be finished until 2017. In 2016 we will have to decide if we will go to split sessions. There will be 200-300 more students. If it doesn't pass, we will need to put the students somewhere, If we drop 91h graders down we Would still have 1200 students in high schools. Wo would Put the (Lh and 9m graders at the middle schools a|D:30e.m.m12:3Op.m./m and 0m graders will come in from 1:00pm.m r(0pm. This will kill sports ut the middle school. We would try to get as many portables as we ran, We are open to Suggestions on how to handle the number of students we will have. 0e would need to put air-conditioning at the schools if we go to year round school, We don't have the money to get that to happen. We don't know how to do year-round at the secondary level. There has been n criticism that *e aren't specific enough. 0e understand. |f you are building ohome it takes 8to8 months. Go you kind ofknow the costs of building materials and you can have a pretty solid estimate. Right now if the bond passes, it will take 12 months for the architects to draw the plans and put out the bid specs. We are looking ahead 18 months and we don't know what will happen to construction costs in that time, Our best guess is $18D per sq. ft, The school wm are looking atio %3O.8OU square feet. That io without fieNnand furnishing. |(ioabout $212 per sq. M doing t with all the fields and furnishings, The high school could come inn\*48 million or$S3 million we just don't know. Let's estimate $50 million and the middle school could ho from $28 million to$32 million. L*Ca estimate $30million. That would leave $12 million to complete the other projects. It is hard to guarantee what we are going to do. If the big schools are reasonable, we can do all the projects listed, If they come io over the estimates, the Board will have to determine which projects we will bodoing. The schools will be located at the corner of 1st street and 4511 street across from the Iona Cemetery. That is the 80 acre lot that the District purchased in 2008-09. There is a strip of land that was purchased for an entrance. The other entrance would be Ladino and 9!h North, The entrances are a concern. We actually put an offer on the land for another entryway and had a gentleman's agreement, We put at) offer in and had appraisals completed and the attorney draft the contracts. Then the person changed their mind and decided not to sell when we went to enact to contract, We are looking at other ideas as well. We don't want to run cars through the neighborhoods, The three entries that are there now are 9rh North, Ladino, and the strip of land. Acting Chairperson Nelson thanked Dr. @mokeu for presenting the information and asked those who Would like to comment or who have questions to come to the microphones and to write their name and address on the sheets provided as well as to state such for the record. He asked those speaking to keep their comments under 3 minutes and if someone has spoken on the same point of view to not speak to the same Subject so everyone who wants to speak has a chance. Please be polite. Name Address | Comment Biggest objection is financial. The first bond in the District where we actually pay more interest than the bond. Doesn't think they have thought that Out very well. He was in their office and it took the guy from Piper Jaffrey a half hour to explain in real terms so he could understand, We aren't making a good financial decision. $10.25 a month doesn't pay for this bond. We are paying $19.50 now on Current bonds. Then they will raise $10.25 per 100,000. After 15 years less than $4 million will be paid toward the e/mo0utzmon 8800 East Lincoln Road had 10 '`~~.'~~^~~'``'~`~'~~^~~'~'^~~~~~~~'~'~^~~ Maybe the bond m too big if no one Would vote to pay for hini0 years. The state has an equalization fund that pays all the interest plus some principal on the bond if you go 10 years If we go 30 years, the state only pays $30 million and the district will have incurred $82 million in extra interest that the tax payers will have to pay. He thinks that is wrong, If we are going to pay $29 at the end, why not pay it up front? It is not $10.25, don't believe it. if you want to help us defeat the bond and come back ,with something better.If you want to help us, please sign Lip. Agree with what you are doing. But, disagree with the finances. Dr. Shackeff stated hat Eric Henige, from Piper Jaffrey with us through all these bonds is available m respond m some of the financial concerns. Dr. Ghankex asked Mr. Hurrinnertospeak to the length of the bond, levy equalization, and how to get money to build school buildings, Work with a lot of districts. The plan assurnes that the increase is based on the minimum we have to pay until the other bonds roll off, It is mostly interest. The bond plan is designed to minimize the increase. We do mostly interest until we have the capacity to start paying more toward the principal. That h been the | an since the District started running bonds in the1980s. They have all been approached in the same way. The question is how quickly can we pay these off and not increase the tax rate and pay the bonds off earlier. If we did it inlig years, it would have increased the tax rate. In 2007 it was a 14 year bond because we could amortize in that time to not increase the tax rate. We Could have done it in 10. But, we would have had to increase the tax rate, We could have gone over 20 but we would have needed to have paid more interest, |n200Vp* needed mconsider spreading it out over 20 years to plan for the future. In 2012 we went for 20 years. Now we have the ability todu30years because of a legislative change that put us on a level the playing field with the cities and a lot of school districts in the District are allowed m do. There iono way wm can ooa$92 million project without increasing the tax levy rate. The tradeoff is between a lower annual tax increase and higher interest cost with the 30 year bond. Or, do something shorter, like a 10 year bond or a 20 year bond, where you will have a much higher increase in taxes. It is much like whether you do a 30 EhvHamnge, Piper Jaffrey year mortgage ura10 year mortgage. Looking at the interest cost ona30 year mortgage, itiselot of money. Ho would like m do a 15 year mortgage and save all that interest but it is not affordable in his budget so he ends up buying a house over a 30 year period. That is much like the decision the District is doing. It is a tradeoff between total interest and affordability or the tax increase that isprojected. Levy equalization from the state is a program passed in 2001. Where if a district passes a bond, the state will distribute money u help repay that bond. Right now the District receives 1o% of average annual bond payment and will kick m1o%unthe new loan. It is helpful. So if you bond for 1 year, the interest Cost Would be very minimal for that year. So, most nf the equalization would 0om the principle. The question io "What io the right ho|anoe?` Is it I year or3U years? |tio somewhere in- between Tharxv|oallomm,io|makesiomtrymmakrthioaMordaWotoaumanypoop|oaspnsoih|n.Thi,mnn^ymme,hom the lottery funds. The state won't contribute m build n school. Bonds are the way to get buildings. The | ifacility l is option. There are not a whole lot nf options. A^ other bonds are paid off, the levy monies will stay at the same rate and continue to be paid toward the new debt until the high school is paid off, If the tax base grows, the tax rate will drive more dollars. Then it will be a board decision if they want to pay the bonds off more quickly, lower the tax rate, or address future building needs. There was x suggestion that ifnn can't afford the school, wm should find another way. Maybe change the boundaries with District 91. Their enrollment io going down there. Dr. Shaokoustated fiat the school will last 100 years Those who are using the building will be in the District and paying the bond. K You spread i/ over 30 years more | will pay for it. They will be here and using it. Shouldn't they pay for it? How many of you have a 10 year mortgage? Consolidation takes a vote of 50% plus I of patrons in both districts to be in favor, The tax bases are so different. Our payment is $19 plus the $10 we would still have to pay for that for the duration of the loan. But if District 91 wants to build, you would have to pay for their buildings which are now our buildings but they would not have to pay anything towards our debt. You would have to petition the state to have an election. It sounds good. But which one of you wants to start going to District 91 schools? Live in District 91 has children and grandchildren who live in District 93. We all want the best for Our kids. Want the bang for the buck. When he was young, he would circle what he wanted for Christmas in the Wards Catalogue and then present it to his parents. His parents decided what they wanted to spend the money on. It was often something different than what was on the Don Schanz 302 1111 Street, Idaho Falls wish list. He looks at the bond as a wish list. It is a list of all the things we want, The tax payers need to be the parents in this situation, We need to look at this as if we are paying for this for a long time. If only 45% of every dollar goes to our kids, it is not the best use of the money. He wonders how many mothers and fathers will have to go out there and work additional time to pay joff the increases in taxes. Please consider this. Name Address | Cmnm*m Was on the school board for the last five years. This discussion of high schools has been going on since he was elected. All of a sudden, everybody has an opinion. Asked where have YOU been the last 5 years? Your opinions mattered then. The children in the District are far more important than me and my opinions, We have over 11,000 Students He discussed with his neighbors before we purchased Vie land. Some of those same neighbors are against this at this time and that is very frustrating. He has put a ton of time into this District and it is an amazing school district, We should applaud this board for their future thinking. It is -frustrating when we sit back and think we know all the answers, The district has purchased services from Eric for years. They have study after study. Two years ago there was a study completed jointly with District 91 and 93 regarding consolidation. The feasibility was no we cannot do that. But people keep saying let's look at that. Educate yourselves, it is ridiculous to come here oevnreHunt 4G5 Madison River Road and complain when YOU are not providing my bed today. A 10 year bond is a good point. His house is on a 10 year loan. He can afford that. Others are on a 30 year loan because that is what they can afford, Most Of LIS in this room will not be living here in 30 years. He keeps hearing people say that their kids and grandkids will be paying for this bond. Of Course they should they will be living here. Why shouldn't they be paying for their own education? If I live here for 10 — 12 years, why should I have to pay for an entire $92 million bond that our area requires? It makes him angry when he sees people jump up and down when they truly don't have all the information. He applauds the school district. If you do any Study regarding transitions from class to class and school to school, they are a horrible idea educationally for the students Do we want them to have a new school every two years? Do we want g1h graders in the same school as 811 graders and not have all the elective classes available? Think about it what you are thinking, Grew LIP in a school where they put additions on. That school has 8 gyms and 2 auditoriums The taxes we are paying a year here is what his brother pays in a month there. We should be thankful for that. If our former governor had not repealed the sales tax, we wouldn't have this kind of problem, People with a 30 year mortgage should know that the first 23 years of that mortgage xanowxLombrink 2848 Salmon Street YOU pay more in interest than on the principle. We need the schools. He is on a fixed income now but will support the bond mget the school. You might want m look at Cutting out the extra stuff. Maybe change the schedule and close the campus. Maybe split the lunch periods. |f not living here they don't have a thing called seminary. That |o are alleviating the crowding io the school right now by having kids go there for classes during the day. Both sides want to accomplish the same goal. We want proper learning conditions for our children. She has children at Iona Elementary. 0e have different ways of getting that goal. The Board works hard. Most are volunteers and she appreciates that service, MOM Used to work with school board in her hometown inWashington. They are a large district and they had ahuge amount of growth. They found other options to take care of the growth. They had a 0 hour for upper classmen that Would open spots for 3UOkids at 10 classes with 30 students allending. Those students would be able to go home an hour early or have a longer lunch period. Looked at a study by American Association of School Administrators compiled several Surveys from across Erica Miller 48u8Windhv*,Road the nation regarding 8m grade academies. Why not take the current middle schools and make them the 9m grade academies? Through her research, she couldn't find any negative impacts of isolating the 8m grade. They Would still un near the high schools m, they Could take classes ot the high school. Me. Miller did not know about the District survey and did not take it. |f she had, she would have voted in favor of that choice. She is not against building schools, education, or bonds. But there are alternate solutions. we need who conservative and fiscally responsible, She feels the school district may not bouv fiscally responsible an they should, The District needs m purchase o facility that you can afford, could then | a 10 year mortgage. She and her husband work hard for their money and have done the same thing with their mortgage. They built their home near an open space in their back yard which io now the proposed egress m the school. Obviously she i, upset about the location. -Mrs. Landers stated that on the survey the patrons voted the option of annexing the middle schools to the high schools down. Lived here his whole life. He has 18 grandchildren in the District. Has heard that there are two kinds of people, one who pays interest and one who makes interest. Everyone cares for the kids. He voted for Bonneville High School and Hillcrest High School. But he can't support this bond because of the great interest that they are going into debt for our kids and our gmodkidu and even great 0mndkiUo, He Understands that we have 1200 in each of our high schools. If we had classrooms without Lewis Bird 8iO4 North Maploimw downtime wo could have 100Oin our high schools. Wo could have roving teachers. That io not convenient, but i(ina lot better Idaho Falls than split sessions. We have 100 seminary kids going over there each hour. So that takes out 1200 in each high school. If we make a larger middle school, we Could build it for $30 million and add $10 million to it for roofs, and other needs, We could take n1O year loan and build itoo the proposed site, Wo could then build a high school in the future, When xe was z4ko bought e house and paid i/ off when oa was 3u,|| has been nice not m pay interest since that time. Doesn't want w see our school district mdeht our kids, we have tried the 9th grade academy at Bonneville High School. We don't have that anymore. The teachers didn't like it and the students didn't like it. YOU Couldn't put those kids in the classes they wanted and needed which were the advanced classes or electives. The District looked at studies that said great things, visited a school in Montana, and tried it. It didn't work. The school board m trying m make a30 year loan wwo can afford the increase in taxes. Her home was ona30 year loan. Kio now paid off. Renee Cook 2789 North Barnes That is the goal of the district is to pay the loan off earlier. They have the history showing that they have done this. She has one more comment with regard m how many mothers will have mgum work if this bond passes. Her question ia how many will have to go to work if a 10 year bond passes, That is more Money, If Your kids are still here in 30 years, they will be using the schools and be graduated, In 30 years, her senior will be 46 and will have kids who will have attended the schools and graduated. Ym. they should help pay for it. She can afford a 10 year bond but many of her neighbors who are moving in are in their first home. Some people coo't afford the 1O year bond and wo need mprotect those people. At the last meeting mRocky Mountain Middle School. His back yard is against northern boundary of the proposed school. Aso home owner he has a concern location and asked if Dr. Shackett would address this. Is there an opportunity for eoalternative James King 4840winu,ivo,Drive location mtharNaouod000m&osvbuiwx|nno?WhatmmuWthodimhwdnimwmnnmyhom000d\heuvhnnnWhniwi|pmmo\ ihe �pmp��hnmNoxmdeou��gm cut �mu8h?Thomwas 000cemabout �oamount nfon�o that mmoNho going �muOh o uhoiviai000aodnnm1"8tremt.Huoe|mffiusmuybeonrnnoiUomd? Mr. Hill shared the history of the land purchase and the options that are available. We started buying property for future school sites io2002.Mo travels around the district and notices where the growth io and then picks a site and begins talking m the property owners. Many people are not interested io selling. They are farming n,want to wait until the price goes up. |t has been a difficult task m try m purchase property andmutayohoxdn(too game, We have been fortunate toha able wduthat, Wo have built e lot o(schools on a lot of sites we have purchased in the last several years. We currently have seven sites that we don't have schools on. It has been the philosophy of the Board to buy property when you have money m buy it. Then itin yours. If you try m buy it after someone else buys it, it will Uoupin price. There have been some great developers and land owners who have worked with os over the years and given "o great prices onproperty. We really appreciate their help. About six p, seven years ago, the Board asked uomfind m secondary site that was centrally located around 1" street and east. We went over to 52"J East and 1,1 Street. Talked about purchasing with the property owner. They were willing but found that they didn't have the Utilities available that we needed such as water and gas and it would cost us more money than it would if we built closer to town. |twas inm flood zone as well. The next site was fartheroUt on i*Street, The Smith tree plantation that is aboutmile east of the site we currently own. They didn't want to give LIS any frontage on Iona Road, They would only give Lis frontage on V Street. We would still have the same problems with lack of utilities and the cost to bring them from Crowley Road would be in the millions of dollars, The site we purchased became available, The developer purchased 20 acres and decided not to build additional homes. The District became aware of the 80 acre site that was on 111 Street with sewer, water, utilities, and good access to it, The Board made the decision to purchase that site four years ago in December 2009. We also purchased an additional 100 foot wide strip for access to 1 11 Street. We talked to the county planning and zoning, They looked at it and wanted to make sure there were at least two entrances. We have three entrances, The county said we should be ok as far as they were concerned. We realize that putting a high school and middle school next to the subdivisions is not an easy thing. There are a lot of feelings and concerns. It is always easier to build in the middle of nowhere and then people who build there want to be there. Developers want to have schools near their subdivisions. It helps sell homes and brings people in. It is really like having a park in your subdivision. A high school and middle school isn't any different, it is just a larger area, You have all kinds of fields and a track YOU can walk on, Students don't drive to the elementaries but we have parents driving kids to school. There is four rows of trees that SUitter placed there 8are his and 8will stay, We will have two rows of trees for n windbreaker and buffer between You home and the school site. We place a six foot chain link fence around all Our schools, The original development was to be 150 homes. Figuring two cars per home, that is 300 cars that would be traveling more than once a day. However that is a little different than school traffic, We haven't involved the architects yet, We haven't passed the bond yet so they are doing everything currently without pay. It is our hope thatwe Gan use the exit on to Ist Street and design the parking lot so most of the student traffic goes out on to V Street. We realize that we will be mandated by the county to do a traffic study. We would consider acceleration lanes and turning lanes, etc. The County would tell us what we need to do. The bond contains some contingency money to do those type of things. Name Address Comment Roger Hill has done what the school board has asked him wdo. He has been omath teacher for 38 years. Has always Supported all the override levies, You are severely tempting to vote no and probably will, Concerned he high school land locked. Stan Boyle How will we get people in and Out with as much traffic as a high school has? We can find property where it isn't land locked. He suggest that there be a big long street sign that has all the names of the school board on it. So for the next 50 years when people are backed ovin the morning and night and every time there ia some type of event that they will ho able thank you, Knows how much effort and work the Board has put into this, Appreciates time and care you take, Know that you dnthis because YOU love kids and want to see our community successful in education. Supportive Of You trying to find a solution. Feels i,ioa good solution and in willing m Support it. Why didn't YvOvhrou0ynar?|uithocaooeof/heoxuam,t?Toetia unfortunate. Has lived in many places and we pay very little for education here. Wish it could be a 20 year bond but can support eJD year bond aowell, A2o year bond would bo$1n.07 additional taxes per $1O0.000 taxable value home per month Explain why you settled for $92 million i/ the debt capacity ip$9umillion. What io the actual debt capacity? Debt inaserious issue when we are maxed out and the law says we can't go into debt any further. Called the state tax commission. Did you realized that the $V2million plus our $01 million puts uoai the highest io the state? We will ho the most indebted school district Brian Smith o1G0 North Foothill Road i» the state, You should be hiding under the table That Puts uoa\$113 million in interest, That b huge. This isn't Washington D.C. Ho works overtime, pays his bills, and lives vn what he can afford When he wants m build e house urdo something, he saves and then goes forward, Wo are $3 million off the max. We need w take e step back and take o good hard look at it. Lets do what we can afford, Do we need a lavish high school? Do we need two or three gyms? Do our kids need to learn to how to read and write v,do they need * learn how to play basketball? Dr. ShvckoVstated hat vm didn't want uqoupm the debt capacity. Mrs. Burton stated that the actual debt capacity iv$9o.u18.00O based nns% of market value, Our debt can 8vov higher than n% of the market value. Mm. Landers stated that the school board didn't come up with $92 million w reach the maximum. When w* totaled up the high school, the middle school, and we were going to do an elementary but ended LIP pulling it off because there were so many N projects that needed mho addressed, Instead decided to build eight classroom additions at Woodland Hills and Iona. We were not trying to get the maximum amount of money that we could. It is what we are looking to 'mmn|ote the needed projects. 'Gets the traffic thing because her house buts up to White Pine Charter School. It is not a pretty thing to look at the school and not fun in the morning with buses and cars. When she moved here she picked District 9S for u reason. Almost every neighborhood has a school in it, Granted it is not a high school or a middle school. She understands that it is a lot more traffic. But, we need a place m educate them. The kids are growing upand they need toboinaschool. Her daughter ioio the high school and the hallways are crowded and it is hard to get where she needs to go. The biggest issue is the 30 year bond. The board is as open as possible. She has had issues but she has been to the meetings. She has seen what the board has been doing. She has seen the studies that have been done because she has been there and seen what has been discussed. She has Holly Giglio 688 Katie Court seen very few people there, The meetings are open to the public, Anyone can come to them, So come and see what they do. They are there working. They uren'|juot sitting around. All of these things they talk about constantly. There iso reason that they have come to this point. It is frustrating as DeVere said. A note came to tier website came today. She read the flyer A group has formed m oppose the District 93 gigantic bond. Asked to recruit md in their neighborhood mdistribute fl and they iU pay $B per hour. Asking kids to stand on key intersections from 4:30 -6:30 on election day. It is an Uphill battles with our tax dollars being used against LIS. She thinks that is underhanded, There is information on the website that says that we can't build on the site because it is a lava field. They were going to build houses on it. So someone was going to build on it. That is not exactly the truth. Talk about telling the truth. Also the website said the District didn't plan for a seminary building. Teaches at Sandcreek Middle School. This bond is next Tuesday. The legislature has just set school appropriations, You all need to talk to Your legislators about getting the appropriation on sales tax back to the way it was, You will be seeing more and Sue Kindred xUO0 Dove Drive more bonds because the legislature has said lets have local control and let the people decide what they need. Since Governor Rish changed to taking away from sales tax and put it into property tax we have had this big fight and it's not going to change until nm change ithaoK Amused eo people have introduced themselves aseducators, Heioou engineer. Cannot believe that anyone would put ahigh school nna landlocked location with one access. Knowing from day one that the county will require ot least two accesses. |tio just unbelievable that a group would actually do that. It is incompressible that 1500 students could get in and Out of that facility Terry Turner 91h Street and to drive down warn out old narrow 9th Street or down the brand new street Ladino, The school will last a 100 years he has heard. But, 3O years from; now someone is going m say i/ isn't big enough. Wauan't make i/ bigger because diso land locked piece of property. That location ioa bad decision. Let's get that school ino location where it makes sense, Where wmhave access with different roads. You will vote have his vote. Right now ha won't vote for it. Dr. 8havmmstated hat there is an ability to add wings to this school. We are looking at Middleton High School, It is 230,000 square feet. Madison iu2uO.0OO square feet. Rigby is 275,000 square feet. Our proposed building is smaller than those two high schools. It is a 1500 student school but there inao ability un the 80 acres m add a wing n, two and the hallways and commons areas will ho big enough accommodate that expansion, Mr. Hill stated that we have a straight shot entrance onto 1 st Street. The other two are Ladino a��North,Those mayor may not bethe two. We don't control what entrances we need. The counly feels that we have two entrances and have met their requirement, Once we pass the bond, we will need work with planning and zoning and look at egress and traffic Study. Once wm start asking for permits onthis site then requirements for egress will ua set on well oo possible increase |othe sewer system. We are not sure at this point. Name Address Comment Finds comments kn both sides have been ||in A lot of things year loan. The tax structure is what it is and there is a need. There aren't many of us who could do the 10 year thing. If we have been asleep for the last five years it is immaterial. We are where we are. Two levels of discussion this evening. Can we pay for what we are asking for? What is the bang for the buck? He is a former educator and taught in Cache County and is very familiar with the middle school, freshmen center, and high school concept. The studies seem very positive. However his evidence is anecdotal. From his experience, the freshman center system is not a great system. He doesn't think it really accomplishes the things the Studies claim. When it comes down the question, What do we get for what we are paying for? This is a lot of money, Jeff Gunnell /18 Randy Drive We need mue thoughtful and careful, Ho was a music educator. The difficulty that were created for expansion of non-core Subjects was the reason lie left education. He was teaching at three different schools. He went to the 61h and 71h grades, then to the freshmen, and then m the high school, Rn did that for three years and i| became unbearable. He felt like fie was letting the students down because hu just could not ho all those places. You mentioned with the AB schedule, 25%u[ teaching time ialost a teacher is not in the classroom, He believes it is worth the money to give them the opportunity to have that prep time when they are dealing with ,mmany students. It is also worth the money tu give the students a schedule m get them inmdassmumfor 90 minutes Instead of 45 or 55 minutes. It is a huge price tag. it is a need and the costs are justified to keep the classrooms in such u way that Students can heineo environment where they can learn. Discrepancies nr changes in the dollar numbers from last week. Upgrade playing fields ai Bonneville and HiUmom. They talked about a football stadium and track at Hillcrest. Last week you didn't have dollar figures. Now he sees all the dollar figures. Why weren't there dollar figures last week? He doesn't see the transparency with the school board for how they are planning mspend our money before getting the bond. Agrees that it is a bad location. The 4 way stop between 11t Street and Crowley Road will be the main artery for this, Just adding turning lanes and acceleration/deceleration lanes won't take care of the problem. Saying that .o|anoing and zoning will deal with this innot their responsibility. It is your responsibility not theirs. You pick the location. You see Dustin Miller 4Oo8Winunvo,Road what is possible. There are plenty of other options h*sidm,/hiooPm.whydiddo||arfigueochange? Whweren't they available last week? Did you change your mind on this? He was told that tuffing on the stadium was an alternative to building another football stadium. Wants ao explanation mom*hy/Aoymemcheogod, Why weren't they figured before the bond was put o 8 How much money do we need? What can we do without? Do we need the auxiliary gym at Hillcrest if the enrollment drops by 33%? Against this because there are too many discrepancies and too many unknowns. We need to Cut the fat more, We can't just spend *8z and take what wowant, We can't have a sense of entitlement here with all these playing fields and auxiliary gyms. Let's do what we need for education. He 100% for education of our children and for building schools. But, going ahovti\ [his way hn disagrees with Dr. Sxaokex stated wm listen and wo make changes, We heard why wn are buying land. |tiv smart m buy land and eo always doit because for the most part wo can get cheaper before we need it. But, we took a million dollars off in response to the public input, We heard concerns about textbooks. You were right, they are short term expenses on wo took them off and put the money toward other projects, We need to put infrastructure for computer labs and computers in the new high school. We do not have the money in the M&O budget oowe left that in the list, We have constantly gone through and changed in response to your input, You said it was vague and it was so we tried our best to put a cost nn the list, U you criticize putting a cost on, that was the request from last time. We can't guarantee those costs. With regard m the turf nr the football field, iftheboard wants to do it, we may put it on Thunder Stadium. The philosophy right now is that we want to build it right. That means football, baseball, softball, soccer, and tennis. K the bids come in in 18 months and are cost prohibitive and we have $700,000 and the board decides to put turf on Thunder Stadium so all three schools can play there it Could happen. We don't know that at this point. Some things are not on the list. We were listening to you and we took them out. Every project iv badly needed. The classroom additions will allow "oto put off building oo elementary. We don't want to put money into a stadium that doesn't work at Hilicrest, All the practice fields Would be gone ifwe tried to put a stadium etmooma/ They decided that what they need every day of the school year is an auxiliary gym.. We found that we made an error in the lab estimate. Wednmake mistakes and ** are trying toho transparent, That is why you see this axdifferent then last time. And the next time i\ will probably bp updated again. The $700.00Omturf Thunder if it is done will pay for itself in 7 — 8 years. After that it may last 20 years before we need to do something to it. It is a good long term investment. It is not extravagant if you will have ovchro|there. Very Much for education. New to this whole thing, Thank you for all You have done. Looking to the future, kids will hngraduated before i/in paid off. That scares her. They have paid off their house but don't know if they can pay taxes. What if we try to lower the interest rate by focusing on just building the schools we need now? Then after we pay those off then we can put in a stadium ora media center. Wo need the help now et the high schools. Once wo get started m pay the bond off, then wa Could pass a new bond after that, Maybe things will change if legislature changes and goes back to sales tax. If we pass this $92 million bond and things change it will he too late and the taxes will already bo raised. So, what ifwo just focus unwhat we desperately needed now. Then once we get those paid off, we can start adding more things and pay that off. She is ok with the $92 million if ohmoyJak«bmmki 128 Tyra Drive we didn't have as much interest rate. It wouldn't be Such a huge impact Then we could pay things off as we go. Has anything like that been addressed? Some other concerns, She graduated from Madison High School and had middle school, junior high, and high school. It is a true concern to have to be bused back and forth to the high school. Class time was shortened, There is a ouot for gas and the bus driver. However, i/ worked and she graduated, She can see it being a problem because of the distance, but it does work even i/itis not the best option, Her biggest concern i,that $92 seems like a huge amount. |f*m can Ovfor something smaller and pay it off with not as much interest, Then we can go to something more. If she wants to add on to her house she io going m add something huge that she can't pay for. LnmVo for what xm can pay for now and add little projects over the years. She understands that projects are needed but not sure we can all afford to do that now. If we can get legislation changed then wn get more help as tax payers o[ the district. Dr. aomokou stated that we realized that it wasn't wise m spend $12 million on an elementary when there are so many needs in the schools, We could run this bond for$80 million and hope the high school Would come innt$oO million and the middle school at $30. That is a viable option, The board has discussed that. But if you look at the projects, ifme can afford i!nriywo can bond for it now, itiunever going to be cheaper to build it down the road. If we have the bonding capacity, do we build it now or do we build it later. We believe i| will only cost more mdvitlater. Wa definitely need a high school and a middle school. Name Address Chelsea Chase 22151`t Street Randy Trane Windriver Road Marty Miller Senior Hillcrest High School Student Julie Hawkes 2207 Meadow Street Heidi Southwick 3836 East Heath Circle Comment Falls valley PTO president. She graduated from high school in Denver, It is a 2200 student high school. There was one exit and one entrance. They never had any traffic issues. The area is very big on safety. There was a security guard at those entrances and exits. Feels it was much safer than having a lot of entrances and exits. Don't have high schoolers yet. She is for the bond because Falls Valley desperately needs a part of the projects. They have 550 students. They need parking, drop off and pick up areas that will help to make Falls Valley safer. That money needs to come from somewhere. There is no way to bandaid these projects that the District has asked for. There is no way to just do a little bit at a time. We had a first grade student that got injured a few years ago because of the parking and drop off structure, Schools need roofs. These things need to happen. She feels discouraged that we have out so little money into education. It is something that is worth putting our tax dollars into. There is some fluff in this. $92 million is a lot. We are just doing this backwards. This is a Nancy Pelosi type situation where we pass the bond and then come back later and decide what is in it. Why don't we have numbers? Why don't we have sketches? We've heard why we don't have that. Because we don't have the money until it passes. If we give them the $92 million dollars, then they do what they want to do with it. Why don't we turn bond down and then have them come back with real numbers? Then we will work with you. We want education. Hillcrest has three gyms. They have one on the main floor, They have one above the basketball court and the Navy gym. A 4�, gym it is fluff. Do you think Hillcrest will continue to be at Thunder Stadium when the new school has their own football field? We need stuff, but do we need everything? Do we need turf? We don't need everything they are proposing. If it is $80 million that saves us tax money. We still get the schools. We need to turn it down and then work it out. It doesn't need to be passed first. Do you think if it comes back at $82 million they will refund us some money? They will spend every penny of the $92 million. Concern with the location. Doesn't know how one entry will be work. Last meeting we were informed that transportation is moving because of so much congestion at Bonneville. Bonneville has four entries and Rocky Mountain has two but there is so much congestion we have to move the buses. But we are going to do the new school with just one entrance and it will be just fine. There will be 1500 cars going through the subdivision. Mr. Hill forgot to tell us that people who drive in the subdivision do it at all different times of the day. Students will all be there at the same time. They will be backed up to Country Comer. It will take a long time to get all the students in and out of there every day. They can move the high school anytime they want. This is a disaster in the happening. No matter what they say, they will destroy property value of all the people who have lived there long before that high school was there. It will be $75 — $80 thousand for a $300 thousand house. Finished senior project on how kids need to be involved in education and how they need to be active to relieve energy so they will be able to function and do better in school. Understands the overcrowding in the halls and not being able to get into classes because they are so full. It can't wait. Like standing in front of Noah's Ark and saying we need to change the plan now that it is raining. It is too late. We need to do it now, so kids can have a locker, go to the bathroom, and get down the hall. We are saying that $10.25 a month is too much. All we have to do is miss McDonalds once so we can vote yes and say that our kids are important. A 30 year loan is affordable and not everybody has a $100,000 a year that they can pay to support a shorter bond period. Many are on fixed incomes and more than $10.25 a month is more than they can take. We need to trust our school board. Have they ever miss spent or over spent our money? No they are putting money toward kids. We have beautiful schools, we have one of the best safety programs in all of Idaho, they take money each time to put toward upgrades, technology, and those things that will make us a viable school district. .4 is too late. Please vote yes. Please say that you have 34 cents a day that you are willing to put toward the kids. The time for planning is over it is too late. Everyone gets up and says that we need schools. But, then they go on to say they aren't going to pay for them, or why we can't pay for them, or why it is too long, or why it's too big. Yet we have heard explanation after explanation about why it is as long as it is. Because it can be affordable that way. About why it is this much. Because we need to build a middle school and a high school. No one else has ever had to build two schools at the same time. That is why it is the most ever recorded. It is a very reasonable explanation regarding the amount. It is too big. We have heard more specific numbers trying to become more specific so we all know exactly where our money is being spent. Mr. Trane is saying that we are writing them a blank check and they can spend it on whatever they want. That is not factual. They can't spend the money on anything that isn't delineated in the bond by law. There is no blank checks. They have told us what they are going to spend it on and that is what they have to stick to. The debt is the only way to build schools. What we can afford will not give us the space that we need to take care of our kids. Our growth makes a viable community. If we don't build this, which 1700 kids a year will not be able to go to school? Education in our country is a right not a privilege. With rights come a responsibility. Our responsibility is to provide buildings for our children to attend school. It is not an option. It is possible that the district will spend all $92 million but it will be spent on our children and on their education. Please spend the money on our children to make the educational experience a better one. There is a lot only $10 million left after building the schools and transportation. That $10 million will be pennies of your $10.25 to be able to have a baseball field or to have a track now. To add those things for just pennies would be worth it rather than try to scramble latter and have bandaids Just do it. She is more than willing to pay it so it will be a long term fix. We've heard a ton of options here. People have thrown out something new. Has spent hours in discussions with the school board and the administration. She has learned one thing. The board and administration have our kid's best interest at heart. The Board members have nothing to gain. They will pay the same taxes as we will pay. Give them some credit for the research and effort during months and years that they have put into this. Let's vote yes for our kids. Dan Jakubowski 128 Tyra Drive It is raising my taxes. It has no benefit for me. He has no kids. He doesn't get to go to McDonalds. You are asking him and his wife to pay more of the salary they get. He doesn't think so. 20 year vs. 30 is $10.25 vs, $15 67. The difference is $60 per year. Gas has gone up that much. We will adapt over the years. Justin Harris 5690 East Lincoln Road The savings in interest over that 10 years would be beneficial. Just throwing money at education will not educate our kids. It is the teachers that educate our kids. We need the buildings. You have looked at other schools. Are you looking at middle of the road schools? Do you have a range? Chairperson Winchester stated that we are bull( ing a Winco School and not an Albedsons school. The school is the best design and very practical. It has everything in it that kids need to learn, to be safe, and to have a good education. First high school she has been in that she loved. Not because it looked so great but because it was just designed for kids. It is not showy from the outside. It is less than Madison and Rigby. We will need to furnish the schools and that will cost additional. Stadiums and fields would also cost additional. Rigby and Madison are using existing facilities. Name Address Comment When buy a car asks what it will cost to register, buy gas, and insure. You have 2 high schools and within 8 years all three will be 5A. You will have 3 schools you will need to bus the kids to, three schools to bus kids to games, extracurricular activities, etc. You could build one 6000 student school. You could build the cafeteria, gymnasium, and those things that need to be there. You Could make classes smaller. If you need to add more You Could add more. Then the high schools could be turned into middle schools that could include fifth and sixth graders and they would last a long time. He asked the question regarding how Much to Steven Murphy 5344 East Lincoln Road run the schools. He believes it costs the district about half a million dollars for every elementary, about $1.4 million for the middle schools and about $2.35 million for the high schools. We build the schools and then we need to come LIP with money to maintain them every year. if you only have to send one team you would be saving money. When he went to Highland High school you didn't play both offense and defense, You Chose one or the other. Sophomores didn't play varsity. There were more kids playing freshman and JV ball. Kids at Hillcrest and Bonneville kids aren't getting an opportunity to play now because kids play both ways.. Highland is still a popular school and Pocatello has open enrollment. Dr. Shackett stated hat our philosophy is to have more opportunity for the kids. We feel smaller schools allow kids more opportunity. If the bond is voted down, the Community will have spoken. Survey said let us decide. We are letting the community make the decision We are the 51h largest district in the state. Pocatello has 3 high schools and next year we will be larger than them with 2 high schools. You are not wrong. No one is wrong. It is just a different philosophy. Pocatello has had the same philosophy with 3 high schools. Mrs. Landers stated that there have been a lot of people complaining about a 1500 student high school and wondered where we would Put a 6000 student high school in Idaho Falls, That List is not a viable Solution forn what we are hearing from our patrons. This is a question of progress. Interviewed at a school in Arizona and the town did not want progress and would not pave the roads. We could be in the horse and buggy era in that place. There are roads that can be made wider. There are answers for everything if there is enough money. This bond is less than a pop a day. If traffic is a problem then kids could all ride buses and 2335 John Adams there Wouldn't be any traffic. But, the kids and parents wouldn't go for that. Those are the facts and we have to deal with it. We Mike Jarvis Sandcreek Middle School need to do everything we can to Support Our kids, He has done everything he can. His school is one of 15 finalists in the country. Teacher They are being successful. They are getting $35,000 in technology for Our school. If they are in the top 5 they would win $140,000 in technology. Those are the kind of opportunities that we are giving our children. It is tortuous for LIS to do this for our kids but we do it. We need to progress. Making bigger roads, and building schools is part of that. Sometimes we need to just do it and know that progress will happen. People will grow LIP and move on and people will move in. We need what we need and [here is no changing that. Respect for people who talk about whether they can afford things. This bond needs a 2/3 majority, if we move the bond to 20 or Boyd Southwick 3836 East Heath Circle 10 we Cut down the amount of people that can afford this bond. We are looking for this to pass and we are looking for what is affordable for most people. This bond is affordable. This a good thing for our kids. He is grateful to the school board for their time and effort. It is a great bond and encourages people to vote yes. Acting Chairperson Nelson thanked those who commented. He asked if any Board Member had anything to add. Hearing none, he thanked those in attendance for coming. He stated that the Board will take the input received and consider it. We will try to answer as many of these questions as we can on our website. He announced that we will have an open forum tomorrow night at the District Office from 4:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. He encouraged individuals to attend The Board will consider comments regarding what is best for Our kids. Acting Chairperson Nelson asked if there were other questions or comments, Mr. McBride stated that he appreciates the comments that have been made. There have been opposing views on the board but unitedly came together to put this is the best Solution and put it out to vote. As a new board member he appreciates the words and research that have been given. The board will be looking at the many views. He is confident in the board. There are five people on the board that need to make a decision. He is confident that the funds will be used appropriately and responsibly Acting Chairperson Nelson asked if there were other comments or questions. Hearing none, he asked for a motion to adjourn at 9:52p.m. X. Adiournment MOTION: Jeff Bird made the motion to adjourn. Brian McBride seconded, The vote was 5 in favor with 0 opposed and 0 abstentions Motion passed APPROVED: �d A,i Chairperson ATTESTED: erk Date: / ( - (� ­ I 1